Swarm absconds and abandons brood

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Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby Rurification » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:59 pm

I had a small swarm on June 2nd. Caught it, boxed it. Slow to get going, but then was laying like a dream. Yesterday they absconded. I caught it and put it in a nuc [didn't realize until later which colony it was.]

When I checked their old box, there were 3 frames full of BIAS - just abandoned. Also some cells with multiple eggs at the bottom. No honey. We're just at the end of the flow.

What would make a colony abandon that much brood?

Are they worth keeping?
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Re: Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby Grappling Coach » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:24 am

Last year I had two hives abscond and have a friend whose hive absconded this spring. The hives I had were decimated by pesticides. Then, because they were weak, they got robbed out. They absconded in late summer, but before they did, they pulled all of the brood out of the cells, leaving them in a pile on the bottom board. My friend's hive was in an area with few resources and was not able to store much honey.
I wonder if going into your dearth, they were not able to find adequate food supplies to feed the brood or themselves, so they abandoned them. I am new at this, so take it for what it's worth. I just wonder if no stores in the hive is a clue

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Re: Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby lharder » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:20 pm

The hive has issues of some sort. I might just let them go.

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Re: Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby Rurification » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:58 pm

They are languishing. Checked them over the weekend and they're down to just a frame and a half of bees. The queen is laying, but there are multiple eggs in the bottom of the cells. I'm kind of wondering if she's new. I saw her, so I know it's not a laying worker. I figure they'll either figure it out or die. I'm feeding them a lot in the meantime. Don't expect much.
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Re: Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby moebees » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:22 pm

New queens sometimes lay multiple eggs. Is there plenty of room for her to lay?
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Re: Swarm absconds and abandons brood

Postby Rurification » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:30 am

She's got plenty of room now . I put 2 1/2 more frames of drawn comb in there with them. Here's hoping it works.
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