No genetic difference

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No genetic difference

Postby Nate K » Wed May 20, 2015 5:09 pm

Was at my local beekeepers meeting and I heard a member say
"local stock is no different than stock from across the country. They have tested it and there is no genetic difference"
Let me preface that comment to that he also resells packages from GA.

Why tear down your own product just to see your sales fall?

Does anyone have proof or heard proof of his comment?
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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Michael Bush » Wed May 20, 2015 5:17 pm

"Everything works if you let it"--James "Big Boy" Medlin
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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Nate K » Wed May 20, 2015 5:20 pm

I knew I could count on you Michael!
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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Solomon » Wed May 20, 2015 6:24 pm

That's an article that should be posted regularly.
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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Jim » Sat May 23, 2015 1:49 am

Michael Bush

Do you believe genetics is the same as local exclamation ?




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Re: No genetic difference

Postby lharder » Mon May 25, 2015 6:26 pm

If I raised bees in the south, then sent some to the north, then tested both sets of bees I might conclude they have the same genetics. By moving large quantities of bees all over the place, of course there will be a a homogenizing effect. I am shocked at how many queens are moved into my region. No chance of a true local genetics. Maybe at some point, I can chip away at this.

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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Michael Bush » Sun May 31, 2015 12:12 am

>Do you believe genetics is the same as local exclamation ?

Research done in the 90s and repeated in the early 2000s says they are different.

The 90s research is posted on beesource I think and also here:
http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/1996 ... BA834A22F0

Here's one in Australia:
http://jee.oxfordjournals.org/content/1 ... 2.abstract

The 2000s research was done by Delaney

http://aesa.oxfordjournals.org/content/ ... 6.abstract
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Re: No genetic difference

Postby Jim » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:12 am

Michael Bush wrote:>Do you believe genetics is the same as local exclamation ?

Research done in the 90s and repeated in the early 2000s says they are different.

The 90s research is posted on beesource I think and also here:
http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/1996 ... BA834A22F0

Here's one in Australia:
http://jee.oxfordjournals.org/content/1 ... 2.abstract

The 2000s research was done by Delaney

http://aesa.oxfordjournals.org/content/ ... 6.abstract


Michael Bush...
IMHO
Seems like a lot of people want to put these two things together.I do have a nice there is a genetic scientist she says they are both different from each other.I do realize her specialty is in cancer research.

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