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Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:30 pm

Hello!

J'm treatment free beekeeper since 2014. I lost all my 7 hives last year. In 2015 I started again with 6 hives. Generally I would like to have locally naturally crossed bees with Apis Mellifera Mellifera genes in some part. For now all 6 hives alive.

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Re: Poland

Postby herbhome » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:33 am

Welcome, hope 2016 is kinder to you

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:23 am

Do you know about this:

www.wolnepszczoly.org
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:53 pm

J know. Ja was in this group.

Actually status in winter autumn 2016.

Winter losses 2015/2016: 2 hives from 5.
2016 season expansion to 12 hives. All naturally cross local bees.
For now 100% alive. :)

Generally mostly hands-off TF beekeeping. I catch one my swarm. From two colony I was taken from one split.
All honey for bees for now. I took generally from dead colonies. ;)
Maybe I will take in the spring if they have more honey after winter.

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:40 pm

Hi!
Why do you call yourself varroa apiary?

Do you breed varroa :mrgreen: or breed against varroa ;) or sell varroa mites for those who need to test their bees for resistance :idea: ?

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:14 am

Because I like creature Varroa mite.
I'm not in war with Varroa. Varroa is companion of my apiary. I have bees so I have a Varroa as well.

This is logotype of my apiary:
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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:40 am

Ah, so you are a Kirk Webster fan like me!

I like your logo!

This is mine:

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:38 am

I like Yours too.

About Kirk Webster. Not really. ;) I don't know his work very well. Honestly I heard about him last time.
I though about Varroa like a companion before I had bees.

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:07 pm

Winter losses 2016/2017: 5 from 12 hives.
2 alive hives 2,5 years TF
5 alive hives less than 1,5 years TF

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Re: Poland

Postby moebees » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:21 pm

Thanks for the report Varroa Apiary. Is winter about over for you at this point? Are these probable survivors now?
Sam Droege, a biologist for the U.S. Geological Survey—“bees are not optional."

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Re: Poland

Postby Nordak » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:29 pm

Varroa Apiary, thanks for the report. What's your plan for 2017 increase?

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Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:06 pm

moebees wrote:Thanks for the report Varroa Apiary. Is winter about over for you at this point? Are these probable survivors now?

First question: I dont know what You mean
Second: who knows
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Re: RE: Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:08 pm

Nordak wrote:Varroa Apiary, thanks for the report. What's your plan for 2017 increase?

Double from survivors from theirs swarms or from one strong split.

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Re: Poland

Postby lharder » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:53 pm

My talented sister is working on my logo. It will be a silhouette of a stick beekeeper being chased by a swarm of bees. My labels for different honey will be variations on that theme.

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"bees at the edge of chaos"
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is how I envision it.

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:11 pm

lharder wrote:My talented sister is working on my logo. It will be a silhouette of a stick beekeeper being chased by a swarm of bees. My labels for different honey will be variations on that theme.

Bootstrap Apiaries
"bees at the edge of chaos"
logo

is how I envision it.


Great. But why chaos? You seem to me a most serious and talented beekeeper!
Do you envision your swarms flooding your area? That´s chaos for sure but wonderful chaos. :lol:

Varroa Apiary: nice! I wish you luck, wish me luck too!
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:29 pm

I wish You. How Your statistics?

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Re: Poland

Postby GregV » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:22 pm

Hello, Varroa Apiary!
What kind of hives/frames do you run?

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:32 pm

Warsaw Usual old polish standard warmed walls hive, Warre and KTBH

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Re: Poland

Postby GregV » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:11 pm

Varroa Apiary wrote:Warsaw Usual old polish standard warmed walls hive, Warre and KTBH


What is "Warsaw Usual old polish standard warmed walls hive"?
Do you have pictures?
Is it built around the vertical Dadant frame?

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:45 am

Varroa Apiary wrote:I wish You. How Your statistics?


5 alive out of 14.
But we had a terrible storm so I have to see tomorrow if a tree fell down on them.
:shock:
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:31 am

GregV wrote:
Varroa Apiary wrote:Warsaw Usual old polish standard warmed walls hive, Warre and KTBH


What is "Warsaw Usual old polish standard warmed walls hive"?
Do you have pictures?
Is it built around the vertical Dadant frame?


Image

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frame: 275 x 240 x 435 (height) mm

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Re: Poland

Postby GregV » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:49 pm

Varroa Apiary wrote:.....frame: 275 x 240 x 435 (height) mm

Great pics!
Now we are talking about some good stuff! :)

Check out my custom hives I am running myself (using Dadant vertical frame):
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=717
I am trying to mostly mimic what you have there.

Looks like your frame is different from standard Dadant or standard Langstroth.
The same long dimension as Dadant (turned 90 degrees) but the short dimension between Dadant and Langstroth.
I can not even find your frame listed in this pretty complete frame listing:
http://beehivejournal.blogspot.com/2010 ... sizes.html

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Re: Poland

Postby lharder » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:21 pm

SiWolKe wrote:
lharder wrote:My talented sister is working on my logo. It will be a silhouette of a stick beekeeper being chased by a swarm of bees. My labels for different honey will be variations on that theme.

Bootstrap Apiaries
"bees at the edge of chaos"
logo

is how I envision it.


Great. But why chaos? You seem to me a most serious and talented beekeeper!
Do you envision your swarms flooding your area? That´s chaos for sure but wonderful chaos. :lol:

Varroa Apiary: nice! I wish you luck, wish me luck too!


Edge of chaos has mathematically meaning in systems theory. Big change and adaptation happens not when things are chaotic, not when things are too stable but at a state in between. But also it just makes me laugh at my own lack of knowledge and pretension in the face of complexity. Plus some days there is potential for wild unpredictable events, some bee related, some keeper:)

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:52 pm

Very nice attitude, Iharder!
:)
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:05 pm

GregV wrote:
Varroa Apiary wrote:.....frame: 275 x 240 x 435 (height) mm


Check out my custom hives I am running myself (using Dadant vertical frame):
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=717
I am trying to mostly mimic what you have there.


I know this site. The main different is probably that I have a warmer walls with rye hulls inside. Heaviness of the wall wall is 5-8 cm

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:48 am

Varroa Apiary wrote:J know. Ja was in this group.

Actually status in winter autumn 2016.

Winter losses 2015/2016: 2 hives from 5.
2016 season expansion to 12 hives. All naturally cross local bees.
For now 100% alive. :)

Generally mostly hands-off TF beekeeping. I catch one my swarm. From two colony I was taken from one split.
All honey for bees for now. I took generally from dead colonies. ;)
Maybe I will take in the spring if they have more honey after winter.


Actually status in autumn 2017

winter and mostly spring losses 2017: 11 hives from 12
2017 season expansion to 12 colonies.
3 queens are daughters from 1 my survival colony (mostly phenotype AMM)
3 queens are daughters from 3 different survival colonies from my friend.
5 queens I bought (mostly phenotype AMM)
1 survival colony

I had quite enough honey comb for eating and expansion from dead colonies.

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:52 pm

Hey you have had more losses than me! ;)

VA, we will succeed in the end. Keep up and let´s hold on together. I like your style :)

Bravo!
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:50 pm

SiWolKe wrote:Hey you have had more losses than me! ;)


How much You lost? Mostly I lost my bees in cold early spring. Probably. Nosema.

VA, we will succeed in the end. Keep up and let´s hold on together. I like your style :)


thanks

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:01 pm

winter 2015/16 I lost none.
The winter was warm and they outbred the mites until I splitted.

winter 2016/17 I lost 10 out of 14.
4 were varroa crashes, the other were queen issues, or what they call CCD, no one knows exactly what that is.
Also they never starved, but it looks like some were isolated from stores.

The 4 I multiplied, I got a swarm and a split with better genetics from a friend. Up again to 13.

I have never seen nosema, I feed only honey and some cleansing flights are possible in winter.

3 are over my threshold with mites now ( >10 dropping down a day). I don´t know what will develop, I never monitored mites before so I can´t compare to last year.
Threshold here is 1mite a day dropping. So my threshold is much higher.
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Re: Poland

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:36 am

Hey VA very nice, thanks for posting!
What do you feed? Honey syrup?

Those ferocious little ones! They bring pollen, very good! Good luck!
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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:46 am

Thanks

Sugar syrup with infusion of herbs, a little dose of different organic acids, a little dose of different salts.
My purpose of adding is to substitute what is in the nectar.
Unfortunately, due to the terrible weather this year, the colony almost did not gather honey for winter and will inevitably fall in winter with starvation.

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:49 pm

You may try to put a sugar brick on top or bottom.
I hope they make it. Sometimes there is a big surprise.
:)
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Re: Poland

Postby GregV » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:46 pm

I also have one colony that I have hopes for mite resistance due to their origin.

One thing about this colony - they stored no winter stores to speak off (lots of pollen but no honey).
So I will feed them. They gonna have to winter on dry sugar blocks (trying to give them heavy syrup now, but not much time left for that).
Unlike other nucs, this particular nuc is very strange this way.
Lots of very defensive dark bees - but no honey.

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:01 pm

SiWolKe wrote:You may try to put a sugar brick on top or bottom.
I hope they make it. Sometimes there is a big surprise.
:)


I hope too. What do You mean sugar brick? Dry sugar on the top on the paper, sugar candy or maybe just sugar cubes?

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Re: Poland

Postby GregV » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:10 pm

Varroa Apiary wrote:
SiWolKe wrote:You may try to put a sugar brick on top or bottom.
I hope they make it. Sometimes there is a big surprise.
:)


I hope too. What do You mean sugar brick? Dry sugar on the top on the paper, sugar candy or maybe just sugar cubes?


I like this approach: http://mudsongs.org/category/feeders/sugar-bricks/
I tried this before and will do again.
It is easy, cheap, and it works.

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Re: Poland

Postby Varroa Apiary » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:41 pm

GregV wrote:
I like this approach: http://mudsongs.org/category/feeders/sugar-bricks/
I tried this before and will do again.
It is easy, cheap, and it works.


Thanks.

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Re: Poland

Postby SiWolKe » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:38 pm

Very good link!
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