Top entrance

Discussion pertaining specifically to the hive type commonly known as "Langstroth" with Hoffman frames.
Natbeek
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Top entrance

Postby Natbeek » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:58 pm

I am considering doung top entrances on my hives. I am curious if that moves all the brood to the top box? Also any thing that you have learned from this would be helfull as positives or negatives.

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Michael Bush
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Michael Bush » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:37 pm

Bees want to store honey over the brood nest. This pushes it down. Regardless of where the entrance is.
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Natbeek » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:53 am

Michael, in the pictures of your top entrances it looks like you dont use an inner cover. Do you use one?

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Re: Top entrance

Postby Michael Bush » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:15 am

I do not use an inner cover.
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Koscak » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:58 pm

This is my experimental cover with top entrace ( upgraded - complicated :lol: version of Michael bush's top cover ) and bottom board all in one piece. You can use it as bottom board with slope for water to go out (upper side ) or or if you have the upper entrance as cover ( underside ).

front side ( entrance)
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back side
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and painted cover on hive
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Nate K » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:37 am

I've considered using Top entrances for a while, this year I may give it a try.
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Dustymunky » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:37 pm

I have been using a combination of bottom entrances and middle entrances 1 1/4” hole in middle of the deep. I’m really liking the middle entrance. The 2 hives I have with the mid entrance have survived so far this winter and they look good. I dont know if this is a total coincidence or not.

On bottom entrance hives, the bees have to crawl across the floor to get out and alot more bees hang out there. Even though a healthy hive keeps their home clean, it seems the bottom would be where the scavengers reside. Just common sense tells me that having all the extra traffic going through the floor area would be less hygenic. I believe MB stated that he observed cleaner looking combs on upper entrance hives. Cleaner bee feet?

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Re: Top entrance

Postby moebees » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:33 am

Interesting Dusty. What do you mean by scavengers?
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Re: Top entrance

Postby Dustymunky » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:17 pm

Ants, fallen varoa mites, and other bugs. I have seen tiny lice looking insects and redish tick looking bugs on my SBB trays so i assume they get into solid bottom board hives as well. Im sure there are countless other insects and micro-organisms that feed on the fallen debris as well.

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Re: Top entrance

Postby moebees » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:42 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure if you meant scavengers on the bees or what you stated in your follow up. Organisms living on detritus are not likely to be harmful to bees and some may be beneficial. Some beekeepers try to encourage a vibrant hive eco system. I am not trying to be critical of your approach. Just saying there are other ways to look at it. Personally I don't know which is best and it probably depends on the rest of ones management approach and how everything works together.
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