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Postby SiWolKe » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:34 pm

My new mentor and friend builds skeps and my group will join in a workshop in fall to make them, too.
We are all fascinated!

This will keep us from monitoring too much :lol: Interesting: the entrance location and width and the size as you see in the video.

It shows the making :

https://av.tib.eu/media/10387

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Re: skeps

Postby GregV » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:49 pm

SiWolKe wrote:My new mentor and friend builds skeps and my group will join in a workshop in fall to make them, too.
We are all fascinated!

This will keep us from monitoring too much :lol: Interesting: the entrance location and width and the size as you see in the video.

It shows the making :

https://av.tib.eu/media/10387

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Very cool!
You see, not all is bad for you.
Where I am right now, skeps are illegal to keep.
*Everything* must have movable frames.

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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:32 pm

One thing we have which is not illegal, great!
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Re: skeps

Postby Oranjedal » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:50 pm

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Just a nice picture, I think.

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Postby SiWolKe » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:38 am

Great pict, is the skep yours?
It´s not covered with cow dung, is it placed under a roof?

What kind of pollen is this?
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Re: skeps

Postby Oranjedal » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:11 am

Thanks, yes it is mine. Yes they are under a "hooiberg". This is a long wooden pole in the ground with a round roof of reed.
Most of my colonies are under it.
The pollen is from the "paardenkastanje", a chestnut tree, nice color.

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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:13 pm

Oranjedal wrote: Yes they are under a "hooiberg". This is a long wooden pole in the ground with a round roof of reed.


Sounds nice. Please post a picture! Thanks.
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Re: skeps

Postby Oranjedal » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:54 pm

Here they come, the weather could be nicer...
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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:50 pm

Wow, that´s the most wonderful thing I ever saw!

Reminds me of holiday huts in the tropics :D
Must be nice working the bees and they are sheltered but can breathe!

Did you do them yourself? Are they storm proved?
Looks like straw covered with ...what?

Nice flower surroundings!
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Re: skeps

Postby Oranjedal » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:39 pm

Thank you very much!
Yes I like it too, the bees have shelter from the sun and rain. All of the colonies get some sun, some in the morning and some in the afternoon and evening. They seem to like it too.
No, it was put up by a company specialised in woodwork. The roof is made of chestnut poles and then on top worked of with reeds( kind you find near water). In the old days they used them on farms to store their hay. Yes they are stormproof.

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Re: skeps

Postby Nordak » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:43 pm

Marcel,

Thanks for posting the pics. Your shelter looks amazing. Nice looking bees as well.

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Re: skeps

Postby Oranjedal » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:11 am

Thanks Nordak,

The bees are doing allright this year. I was able to split a good hive, that overwinterd 2 years now, a couple of times. With two swarms I got, I am now up to 12 colonies. Last year I wintered 10 hives, this year I hope to winter 12, maybe 13. But the bees need a good nectarflow right now. Lime-trees should come in bloom anyday now. Lets hope for the best.

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Ps Nice bitematerial of your bees

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Re: skeps

Postby Nordak » Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:02 am

Sounds great, Marcel. Thanks.

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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:57 pm

A nice video of a migrating beekeeping enterprise, using skeps, they have over 1000 skeps among them.

https://av.tib.eu/media/9327

Makes me wonder if it was not a way to go into winter without mites nowadays , doing such managements before winter bee breeding as they did.
Kind of IPM it would be and some chicken food too.
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Re: skeps

Postby Rurification » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:33 pm

That video was really interesting! I have some questions:

1. What were they ladle-ing into the skeps? Why didn't they do every skep?
2. Why were they taking the bees out of the skeps? [with the pounding...]
3. What were they burning in the holes and why?
4. Were they making packages with the bees in the boxes?
5. What did they spray into the boxes? sugar water?
6. What did they scoop and then put into the tops of the boxes? crystallized honey?
7. Was there a queen in those boxes? How do they know?
8. When they put the skeps over bowls with straw - they were feeding?
9. All the skeps on their sides in the building - empty and stored for next season? How would they populate the skeps again? - with the packages?
10. That smoker was really interesting! what were they using for fuel?
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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:09 pm

I received the link to the english version now:
enjoy, Robin, they explain everything but don´t be surprised, the brood is killed and the honey harvested as crushed honey or honeycomb.
It was common practise that time ( 1978)

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Re: skeps

Postby Rurification » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:00 pm

Thanks so much!!
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Re: skeps

Postby GregV » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:47 pm

The skeps, btw, are one of the most energy efficient structures there exist (because they are dome shaped).
Dome houses for humans rule as energy saving approach (the same for the bees should work too).

So, I got to think, why - a dome approximation can be very well constructed inside a regular rectangular hive (especially so since the actual skeps are illegal in my locale). Think - smaller hive inside a bigger hive.
The conventional frames can be made so that they will each represent a slice of a dome (in profile).
Slide together few frames and here you go - a skep approximation that hangs inside a conventional hive.
Here is an idea!

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Re: skeps

Postby SiWolKe » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:38 pm

What I like about the skeps is the straw with cow poke on the outside, seems to me a good thing for hive climate.
Did you realize that the hives were shaded in winter so the bees are not too active?

MB, they have top entrances! There are some with bottom entrance though, I believe.

And a good thing, you do not work them as a hobbyist because you can´t pull frames. Your bees will love that.

By the way, Seeleys small hives, aren´t they? Every year the bees swarm.
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Re: skeps

Postby GregV » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:49 pm

Skeps are perfect, natural bee cavities for moderate locales (not too cold).
Skeps would make perfect swarm-generating hives which you do not manage at all and just keep them to throw swarms.
But, thinking about a minute, the skeps are really easy to extra-insulate - just cover them up with something extra (old blankets, what not) and set into a shed (looks like common practice, anyway).

We have lots of skep-building material about 5 minutes from my home; we have huge areas of tall, swamp grasses growing just nearby.
I would look more into skeps IF they met our local regulations (they don't) or I had a large property just to hide them there :D (which I don't either).
Too bad!

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Re: skeps

Postby flamenco108 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:21 pm

SiWolKe wrote:MB, they have top entrances! There are some with bottom entrance though, I believe.

These with top entrance are called here the Luneburg skeps. The Poles' skeps have bottom entrance.

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