top bar/Lang Hybrid

Discussion about all the various types and configurations of topbar hives.
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top bar/Lang Hybrid

Postby Nate K » Wed May 20, 2015 2:23 pm

Thought this to be the most appropriate place for this post.
Trying a stray thought that came into my head the other day.
I run all mediums, and my thought was to do a frameless lang, which really makes it a strange size stackable topbar.
Similar to langs, I have used wooden strips to keep spacing much like a lang in place of the side bars.

Advantages; cheaper material cost; instead of buying whole frames i can buy only wedge-top topbars and spin the wedge down. Less than 1/3 the cost depending on the source. My top bars were .33c a piece.

Disadvantages; Equal labor time to cut wooden strips for bee space and nail them on to the top bars, instead of gluing and assembling frames.(possible advantage?)

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Re: top bar/Lang Hybrid

Postby Solomon » Wed May 20, 2015 2:42 pm

You could use topbars from foundationless frames. Kelley sells foundationless frames. Less labor. Probably restricted availability.
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Re: top bar/Lang Hybrid

Postby Nate K » Wed May 20, 2015 2:59 pm

Yeah Solomon, you are correct, I could use the foundationless. I do like the idea, but they are twice the cost and I still have to nail on the strips in place of the end bars.

Not that .30c a piece is alot of money, but at twice the cost it does add up. Is .30c worth the time spent flipping the wedge top and nailing it on.. Not sure once you add nails in. Probably cheaper to use the foundationless once its all added up.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: top bar/Lang Hybrid

Postby Michael Bush » Wed May 20, 2015 5:22 pm

All but one of the hives I saw when I was in St. Croix, VI were Langstroth boxes with just Hoffman top bars with no frame. If you space them well (they were all spaced by eye) they work pretty well. If you don't, they don't work so well. Some were and some were not spaced well...
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